Extract from forum
Extracted from a post i put in a forum in reply to all the stupid threads bouncing around... Was praying to God throughout the crafting of this post that at least 1 person would gain a new perspective from my post... Haiz...
What if...
God took direct control of the world. We are as we are, with Free Will and all. But God keeps all of us well fed, everyday wake up you have food to eat. Anytime the weather goes out of control He would say the word and everything is back to normal.
So basically, there are no worries. Everyday from the moment you wake up you are fed. No danger, cos under God's protection.
Give us a million years from creation and we'll STILL be naked, don't even know how to take care of ourselves. A farcry from what we are today... Perfect world? As a parent would you want that for your children? I would do that to my pet, but not my child.
All part of the plan baby
Its a decision made from the beginning. That we will be given the necessary tools (our 2 hands 2 legs and a smarter than the average ape brain), and even a headstart - clothing so the first 2 dudes don't die from the weather...)
If we take the Biblical version of man's beginning, Adam and Eve were given time in the garden to learn about ALL the plants and animals there are. Basically given the knowledge they need to survive before finally being released into the wild, the TRUE beginning and God hands-off from there.
To me, Satan did not win by succeeding in tempting Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. God allowed that to happen. It was all part of His grand plan. The final gift to complete our Free Will. To be given the power to CHOOSE. Could Satan have tempted them before they were ready? No way... the TIME was chosen by God. Smart as Satan thought he was, God is a billion steps ahead.
Show us You're God
God did step in to show the way to Him every now and then. And finally He did walk among men once more. As a man. Why a man? I believe His purpose was not to prove that He existed. Come on, there are enough evidence that He exists. It was to take away the excuses that man had been giving throughout their existence. That they cannot live up to God's expectations. That His instructions are too harsh and difficult to follow.
Here comes the interesting part.
Then people argue, But Jesus is God, of course He can do it. So we admit He is God yea? And if He is God, then what He said should be heeded as words from God isn't it?
Oh, then we say, nah Jesus isn't God at all. So how did He do what no one has ever been able to do? No, not all the miracles. But to live a life free from Sin! If He isn't God, then ANYONE of us can do it. Prove He isn't God by doing it!
Argue all you want... Say that the people who wrote about Him idolised Him and left out the places where He succumbed to Sin. You know how true that is. If the leader you believed in and lived for one day turned out to be a fraud, would you continue convincing others he is authentic and even give your life for him? Put yourself in the Disciple's shoes.
Back to Show Us You're God..
People saw Him, touched Him, were cured by Him. He told them He is God. Yet there were still people who did not believe. What more do you want? Would anything change if He came in our time instead? If we believe now because we saw Him, would our decendants centuries down the road believe because of what we saw? Take pictures, videos and what not? Given the technology then, they would brush off the whole thing as a gimmick, a fraud, the way we are right now wouldn't they?
John 20:29 - "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
(Told to Thomas who insisted on seeing the resurrected Christ before believing...)
How would you have done it if you wanted to have a creation that had free will, maximise their potential, and eventually come to know their Creator?
What if...
God took direct control of the world. We are as we are, with Free Will and all. But God keeps all of us well fed, everyday wake up you have food to eat. Anytime the weather goes out of control He would say the word and everything is back to normal.
So basically, there are no worries. Everyday from the moment you wake up you are fed. No danger, cos under God's protection.
Give us a million years from creation and we'll STILL be naked, don't even know how to take care of ourselves. A farcry from what we are today... Perfect world? As a parent would you want that for your children? I would do that to my pet, but not my child.
All part of the plan baby
Its a decision made from the beginning. That we will be given the necessary tools (our 2 hands 2 legs and a smarter than the average ape brain), and even a headstart - clothing so the first 2 dudes don't die from the weather...)
If we take the Biblical version of man's beginning, Adam and Eve were given time in the garden to learn about ALL the plants and animals there are. Basically given the knowledge they need to survive before finally being released into the wild, the TRUE beginning and God hands-off from there.
To me, Satan did not win by succeeding in tempting Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit. God allowed that to happen. It was all part of His grand plan. The final gift to complete our Free Will. To be given the power to CHOOSE. Could Satan have tempted them before they were ready? No way... the TIME was chosen by God. Smart as Satan thought he was, God is a billion steps ahead.
Show us You're God
God did step in to show the way to Him every now and then. And finally He did walk among men once more. As a man. Why a man? I believe His purpose was not to prove that He existed. Come on, there are enough evidence that He exists. It was to take away the excuses that man had been giving throughout their existence. That they cannot live up to God's expectations. That His instructions are too harsh and difficult to follow.
Here comes the interesting part.
Then people argue, But Jesus is God, of course He can do it. So we admit He is God yea? And if He is God, then what He said should be heeded as words from God isn't it?
Oh, then we say, nah Jesus isn't God at all. So how did He do what no one has ever been able to do? No, not all the miracles. But to live a life free from Sin! If He isn't God, then ANYONE of us can do it. Prove He isn't God by doing it!
Argue all you want... Say that the people who wrote about Him idolised Him and left out the places where He succumbed to Sin. You know how true that is. If the leader you believed in and lived for one day turned out to be a fraud, would you continue convincing others he is authentic and even give your life for him? Put yourself in the Disciple's shoes.
Back to Show Us You're God..
People saw Him, touched Him, were cured by Him. He told them He is God. Yet there were still people who did not believe. What more do you want? Would anything change if He came in our time instead? If we believe now because we saw Him, would our decendants centuries down the road believe because of what we saw? Take pictures, videos and what not? Given the technology then, they would brush off the whole thing as a gimmick, a fraud, the way we are right now wouldn't they?
John 20:29 - "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
(Told to Thomas who insisted on seeing the resurrected Christ before believing...)
How would you have done it if you wanted to have a creation that had free will, maximise their potential, and eventually come to know their Creator?
posted by Justus at 4:07 PM
4 Comments:
Why u like god so much? to the extent u give up the thot of getting married? why are u so dumb to think that god will protect u, god is everything? actually, god doesn't exist at all. stop all ur foolish dumb thots of the existence of god. u are just wasting ur time away without knowing wat u live for life for..
U always say god created pple, god gives u hope etc, if u had brought ur grandpa to god, he would not have died. but let me tell u that u are wrong. God is not everything, pple have to go one day, bringing him to god doesn;t guarantee him to have internal life.
JUSTUS TAN, pls wake up. you dun live the life for god, u live for urself. Dun depend on god and think of the existence of the god as a real affair. Is not true at all. God isn't there for u. There is NO god, pls be clear abt this..NO GOD NO GOD!! dun waste your youth and time away by devoting urself to god and expect ur other half to love god as much as u love god..this is a plian stupid thot, abolish it and u will become a better person..=)
remember, u are not alone, god doesn't exist, and pls stop wasting ur time on things that do not exist..Do wake up b4 is too late for regrets...
don't bother about those pricks lah (sollie, pardon the language)
it's all in the heart.
you can't force ppl to believe
i'm glad im agnostic
free from all these arguments and trying to convince ppl...
i oso dun like to engage in "discussions" that will end up with no concrete conclusions, but only end up with a bunch of ppl pissed at one another bcos of their own "beliefs"
milky: aka. Alicia... >.<
-j-: True... its all in the heart... ^^
bubbletoes: Lol... Thanks for understanding that. Aye... i know how futile it is ^^
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